Today started with some incredibly sad news. At around 8:44 local time, Ethiopian Airlines flight 302 crashed this morning shortly after takeoff. It had been in the air all of six minutes. None of the 149 passengers or 8 crew survived. A minister of the Slovakian parliament confirmed that his wife and two children were aboard.
Coincidence? Or underlying problem?
While there will surely be a full investigation into the cause of the crash, what we do know already is a bit disturbing. The aircraft was a very new Boeing 737 MAX 8, just a matter of months old. This is the same plane that was involved in a fatal Lion Air crash just a few months back, which was the first total loss of a 737 MAX aircraft. All 189 passengers and crew died in that incident as well.
In the case of both Ethiopian 302 and Lion Air 610, the aircraft appear to have struggles to maintain a constant and controlled vertical speed, according to the radar tracking. The Lion Air flight suffered problems on the inbound flight to Jakarta, where passengers called the experience a “roller coaster ride”. Tragically, even after addressing the problem according to maintenance manuals, the aircraft suffered similar problems the following day and crashed into the Java Sea.
The investigation into the Lion Air crash revealed that the pilots struggled with an anti-stalling system that is new to the 737 series on their MAX aircraft. This system kept forcing the nose of the plane down, which the pilots attempted to correct.
Ethiopian flight 302 appears similar, but we admittedly have no real data from which to make determinations. A look at flightradar24 for the flight shows the plane leveling off at 7,500 feet, which isn’t normal. It begins to climb again before the radar log ends. The pilot reported having difficulties and requested clearance to return to Addis Ababa. The cockpit recorder will hopefully shed some more light on the situation.
In neither case does weather appear to be an issue.
Should the 737 MAX 8 be avoided?
Air travel in this day and age is incredibly safe, far safer than traveling by automobile. The number of fatal passenger crashes has been declining for years, and 2017 was the safest year on record, with only 44 fatalities around the globe. The following year saw more fatalities, including the Lion Air crash mentioned previously, which was the worst of the year.
However, the timing and nature of these crashes admittedly now makes me uneasy about flying on one of the new Boeing 737 MAX aircraft. A total of 350 deliveries have been made since the plane debuted in 2017. Two major fatal crashes in just a few months with a fairly low number of operating aircraft is not a good sign. Contrast this with the 777, another Boeing plane, which has only seen 541 passenger fatalities in its 23 year history. Of these, 239 were aboard missing Malaysia flight 270, the most mysterious incident in commercial aviation history, and 298 were aboard Malaysia flight 17, which was downed by an anti-aircraft missile. Both of these were far from routine situations.
Personally, I will be avoiding the MAX 8 until more details about this crash and the Lion Air crash are known, and Boeing weighs in on the situation. Our guide at the aircraft company’s Everett facility reiterated the famous phrase, “if it ain’t Boeing, I’m not going” at the end of our tour. But I can’t take that to heart. This crash raises too many questions.
Featured image courtesy of Aka the Beav via Flickr under CC-BY-2.0 license.Â
Points With a Crew has partnered with CardRatings for our coverage of credit card products. Points With a Crew and CardRatings may receive a commission from card issuers. Responses are not provided or commissioned by the bank advertiser. Some or all of the card offers that appear on the website are from advertisers and that compensation may impact on how and where card products appear on the site. Any opinions expressed in this post are my own, and have not been reviewed, approved, or endorsed by my advertising partners and I do not include all card companies, or all available card offers. Terms apply to American Express benefits and offers and other offers and benefits listed on this page. Other links on this page may also pay me a commission - as always, thanks for your support if you use them
User Generated Content Disclosure: Points With a Crew encourages constructive discussions, comments, and questions. Responses are not provided by or commissioned by any bank advertisers. These responses have not been reviewed, approved, or endorsed by the bank advertiser. It is not the responsibility of the bank advertiser to respond to comments.
Dan Miller travels with his wife and 6 (SIX!) children. He loves to help families travel for free / cheap, especially larger families. If you are looking for help, drop him an email at 
I decided to avoid the 737 max last November when I learned Boeing had secretly implemented a new computer system called MCAS to prevent stalls without telling anyone. The 737 was designed before jetways so it sits close to the ground. To accommodate the larger diameter engines on the 737 max Boeing had to move the engines forward. This shifted the center of gravity for the pane and created a stall problem.
The fact they weren’t up front about the MCAS is definitely cause for concern. I’d hoped the Lion Air disaster was an isolated incident. Now I’m far more worried.
Last August Boeing introduced the 737 Max 10 which will start flying in 2020. They are lengthening the landing gear by 9.5″. This will allow them to move the engines back to the original location and correct the stall problem – which means they no longer will need the MCAS system. It also means that at least 2 months before the first 737 Max crash they knew they had a problem and did not ground the jets.
So who has the 737 MAX ?
Many airlines. Southwest, American, Air Canada, Norwegian, United, and a good number of other international carriers operate a handful. There are many orders on the books.
I know Delta doesn’t have 737 MAX nor has it ordered any so I feel ok for now (Delta flyer here). According to Wikipedia, Southwest has the most with 31, American Airlines at 22, Air Canada at 20, etc.
Same. I fly predominantly Delta as well, which does make me feel better.
I just found out that my daughter is flying from DCA to MIA next Saturday and the aircraft assigned is a B737Max.
I am taking no chances, so I just went on line and bought her a new ticket flying the A319.
I just flew MIA/DEN this past week on a B737Max, however until these 2 crashes are explained, we will be avoiding this aircraft at all costs.
I’d call AA and tell them why to see if they’ll refund you. They need to understand people’s reaction to this.
This is the reason I generally have a rule to fly on first world carriers except when I have no choice. Ethiopian provided the worst experience ever in my 55 years of flying so this does not surprise me. Most accidents are the result of human error.
You should have had no worries as far as safety goes with ET. They have an excellent record overall. I’d fly them long haul any day.
How come nobody has blamed Trump yet?
Maybe because there isn’t anything political about the whole situation?
Is the 737-800 automatically a 737-800 MAX?
Also, is the 737-900 safe?
These are not the same. The 737-700/800/900 series are tried and true and are incredibly safe.
The MAX 8 (not 800) is new, and definitely not the same as the old series. These crashes make the overall safety of this aircraft suspect, but do not call the safety of the 737-700/800/900 into question.
How do I find out if my aircraft is a 737 Max 8? I have a flight coming up on Southwest, specifically.
To check the flight, head to Southwest.com and search for your flight. Click on the flight number by the search result for your flight, and it will give you the details, including aircraft information.
Thank you Ian. I was able to find it.